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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:54 am    Post subject: Sachin Tendulkar vs Expectations Reply with quote

Whenever sachin starts an innings the expectaions around him is unexplainable. People always wants great innings from him, which actually creating enormous pressure in him. Are we ruining his career by putting him under such pressure? Let's discuss about this.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no,i dont think so.
he is simply great sorry greatest.
be beleive in him.so it doesn't force him.
more over we are his strength.
u have watched the last century in 1st pak match.
our excpectation have yield that.

if cricket is Religion.sachin is God
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Sachin Tendulker vs Expectations Reply with quote

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Whenever sachin starts an innings the expectaions around him is unexplainable. People always wants great innings from him, which actually creating enormous pressure in him. .


This kind of situation never creates pressure in a great player.

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Are we ruining his career by putting him under such pressure?


No, not at all.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:15 pm    Post subject: A Cancer Called Cricket – just another point of view Reply with quote

I would rather suggest to read the following article, it would give some insight about Cricket and its implications. Sachin is the part of game, so I thought it is a right place to discuss about the game itself.

The following article has been written by one of my colleague and friend Alex. I have not taken his permission to publish it here but I am sure he would have no objections because this forum would invite more views over what he thinks.

A Cancer Called Cricket – just another point of view
By Alex M Santiago

Let me warn you that the odds that you will curse me after reading this article are 99 to 1. I guess that any new thought against common beliefs or sentiments would usually be invited with wrath from the multitude. I proceed to write this article fully aware of the consequence, because I dare and volunteer to tie the bell around the cat’s neck.

Let me come to the point. I am going to talk about one of our country’s favourite topics – Cricket. The difference is that I am neither going to praise the game nor its stars with zeal. I am not going to analyse the ailing Team India's failure to win matches and give solutions to BCCI. I am not going to give an unbiased review on a recent match.

So what am I going to talk about? I am going to talk about ‘A Cancer Called Cricket’ that has plagued our nation. I write this article after I failed to find any convincing answer for the following questions:

Why is this game treated as a religion in this great nation?
Why treat cricketers like Gods, after all it’s just a game and the players get paid more than what they give?
Why so much publicity and noise about this game alone when there are so many other sports which cry for attention?

Trust me. I too was a kid who screwed up in the +12 exams like millions of other students in this country watching the 1996 World Cup matches. I too was a guy who spent the whole of summer holidays on the government playgrounds and streets playing cricket during hot summers in Chennai. I too was a guy who believed in wasting a whole day watching a cricket match and thought that Team India's victory brought salvation to our great nation. I too was a guy who believed that cricket was a game that demanded good physical fitness, a strong mind and more talent than luck. Then what made me change my mind? Well, I started playing other games and grew up.

I am going to throw some questions for you to ponder upon. I am sure that if you think over these questions you can see the light just in case you are blinded by cricket.

Once I started playing basketball in college, I realised that one has to be ten times fitter to play ten minutes of basketball than to play cricket the whole day. Games and sports are supposed to make a person more strong and fit. Tell me which game is played without much sweat (barring the sweat caused by standing under the sun doing nothing) and least amount of physical strain can cause maximum amount of injuries? Yes, you are right. The answer is cricket.

Which game in India has maximum amount of vulgar sledging and yet is called as a "Gentleman's game"? Bingo! The answer is cricket.

There is this game whose outcome or result is generally dependent on the kind of pitch on which it is played, the outfield of the ground, the climate, the lighting and colour of the ball. Sometimes I don't understand if these were the determinants of the result of the game, then what do the players do? Why play this game? Well, that's not the question. The question is: what is the name of this game where players have very less to do with the result of the game? Spot on! It’s cricket again.

Do Tendulkar and Sehwag represent India? Do they play for the Indian Team? I am sorry if you thought so. The Supreme Court of India passed a ruling in favour of BCCI saying that "Team India" is not the Indian Team but rather BCCI's team. A pity that millions of us waste our time and money believing that BCCI Team is synonymous with Team India.

Name one game on this planet which can be played for five whole days? I repeat, a game that can be played for five whole days and have no result. Does it not sound crazy? If there is no result, then why on earth do they play it? So, what is the name of this game? No prizes for guessing. It’s got to be cricket. Here is one more hilarious question. What do you call those people glued to their TV and computer screens following this game for five long days? Search me. I don’t have an answer for that one.

You won't blame cricket if you knew its history. The English aristocracy played the game. It was for the elite who had too much time on hand and not much to do. Then what is this game doing in a country where the vast majority of the population is struggling to eke out a living?

India is a country with more than a hundred million people below poverty line. There are millions of issues plaguing our country. There are hundreds of thousands of selfless doctors, social workers, lawyers, honest IAS and IPS officers and many others who work day in and out to bring a semblance of hope into the lives of the helpless everyday. Are cricketers bigger heroes than those invisible angels who serve the society and improve the lot of those less privileged than us? After all, cricket is just a game. Its victory or loss does not in any way impact the society. How does cricket contribute to the good of this country or for that matter to the good of a single person by scoring more runs or taking a wicket? All the runs and wickets the cricketers take only help them amass large amount of personal wealth. In what way does cricket really improve the condition of an ordinary Indian? It would be no exaggeration to say that the game has almost been elevated to the status of a religion.

Can a nation like ours with a large population of working class who work on daily wages dream of turning into an economic super power by 2020 if we waste a whole day to watch a cricket match? It is even worse if it is a Test match. Cricket distracts people while working. Is it not uncommon to find people taking breaks from office to watch a match or to see people neglect work in order to keep track of the scores? How do you think we will become an economic super power if our countrymen waste their time in front of TVs, radio sets and websites which constantly keep updating scores throughout the year, what with one series of games following another?

When there are so many faster and shorter games and sports such as kabbadi, tennis, badminton, squash, volleyball, hockey (our national game) which cry out for attention, why do we focus only on cricket? The answer might be hard to digest but it is very much a fact. As human beings we naturally expect our favourite teams to win the matches we watch. Right now the honest truth is that cricket is the only game in which odds are stacked in favour of the Indian team to win a game. It should be noted that cricket did not enjoy the star status before Team India won the 1983 World Cup. Before 1983 World Cup, it was our hockey team which brought home laurels and enjoyed the number one status, though, not to the level of being celebrated as a religion.

This craving for victory that all of us share has been exploited by organisations like BCCI for their own vested interests. When there are hundreds of sportsmen and women sans aid, BCCI spends more than Rs.1 crore for every meeting it holds. When there are millions of homeless people, the so called saviours and heroes of our nation are busy endorsing products and appearing in commercials.

Wake up my brethren. The need of the hour is not a new religion called cricket. Let's envisage an India that does not attain satisfaction by defeating Pakistan in a cricket match but by learning to live in peace with our neighbours. Let's dream of a future where youngsters don't waste a whole day watching a game when there are better things to do in life. Let's pray for a future where India ‘Shines’ in various other games that we don't have to look up at just one sport for rescuing our pride. Let's work for a future where we respect and motivate social workers and activists who make huge personal sacrifices in an attempt to alleviate and improve the standard and quality of life for those less fortunate than us. Let's work to help India get over the addiction of cricket and get rid of the cancerous effect it has on our daily lives.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:35 am    Post subject: Re: A Cancer Called Cricket – just another point o Reply with quote

I am agreeing up to some extend to Alex, but let's think India is not playing international cricket. What all differences it will make to the current situation. First thing is the enormous income it’s making to the country will not be there. Cricket is not just making some individuals rich also it providing the government lot of income by many ways. Think about the taxes and levies collecting by the government for various reasons related to cricket matches, players income, cricket broadcasting in TV Channels, Advertisements etc. If cricket is not there we will loose all these income. Cricket is the only sports event, which is having such a mammoth popularity that all advertisers’ first preference is players and related things. Don’t think that if cricket was not there all this advertisers will turn to other sports, because unfortunately we don’t have any other sports event on which we are having legendry players. I am not forgetting Chess, tennis, snooker etc. but that games are not having such scope of income. How many occasions we feel proud to be an Indian (apart from thinking about our great old history). May be one well-climaxed match for India will make us proud. It will make us think like similar. If cricket was not there, what will be India’s entity in the world sports map? It is always easy to think negative about something, try keeping it positive. Think about it……
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: A Cancer Called Cricket – just another point o Reply with quote

nobody wrote:
I am agreeing up to some extend to Alex,


I do agree to most of the points.

nobody wrote:
but let's think India is not playing international cricket.


A small correction - It's NOT India that is playing international cricket rather call it a bunch of boys that represent a club called BCCI. Have you noticed Sachin's helmet? It doesn't have Indian flag now. He was forced to remove after court denied to identify them as a team that represents India.

nobody wrote:
BCCI is not playing international cricket. What all differences it will make to the current situation.


I don't feel, there would be any major changes. I would discuss them in detail in the following sections.

nobody wrote:
First thing is the enormous income it’s making to the country will not be there.


If we consider the losses as counted by Alex in his article, the income is not worth considering.

nobody wrote:
Cricket is not just making some individuals rich also it providing the government lot of income by many ways. Think about the taxes and levies collecting by the government for various reasons related to cricket matches, players income, cricket broadcasting in TV Channels, Advertisements etc. If cricket is not there we will loose all these income.


Do you really feel that this is a huge amount Question We have so many alternative source of income. Even if you consider it as an industry, I guess, it would not be able to make it in even top 1000 sectors in terms of revenue generated to the government.

nobody wrote:
Cricket is the only sports event, which is having such a mammoth popularity that all advertisers’ first preference is players and related things.


I would rather say - this is beacuse of these investors who have invested such a vast amount in cricket and related things - that they push this game to those extents. Hype is created. This is a media age. You hit a centuary and the next day you are the star. You get the coverage in all the national newspapers. News channels and everywhere. I remember, we had so many great players in the past but this kind of cut throat competition is just something new for us. We are the target of this consumer focussed economy. We need to understand it friend.

nobody wrote:
Don’t think that if cricket was not there all this advertisers will turn to other sports, because unfortunately we don’t have any other sports event on which we are having legendry players.


Sorry, we have so many sports where we legends.

Chess - V Anand
Tennis - Sania Mirza
Tennis - L Paes, M. Bhupati
Soccer - B. Bhuchia
Snooker - Geet Sethi

These are few to mention. Also, let me emphasize the fact that all the above games are played by more that 100 countries at least. There are only 9 - 10 test playing nations to this time. So, I need not tell that who are the real legends.


nobody wrote:
I am not forgetting Chess, tennis, snooker etc. but that games are not having such scope of income.


Advertisers are not willing to turn to these sports because they feel cricket is the only game in the world that is played for the whole day and upto 5 days. So, it gives better opportunities for product endorsement. India is a big market. So, they are playing with us.

nobody wrote:
How many occasions we feel proud to be an Indian (apart from thinking about our great old history). May be one well-climaxed match for India will make us proud. It will make us think like similar.


This is your personal opinion. I don't require a BCCI cricket team win over some nation in cricket to feel proud of our nation. I do feel proud always.

nobody wrote:
If cricket was not there, what will be India’s entity in the world sports map?


I feel that being on the 100th position in world soccer is a better performance than being in 5th position in the total 12 cricket playing nation. This is my personal opinion.

nobody wrote:
It is always easy to think negative about something, try keeping it positive. Think about it……


I am positive about everything. I wish the day would come when we would awake and start developing our interest in other sports as well rather wasting our time in watching and playing cricket. I am positive.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:19 am    Post subject: Sachin Reply with quote

hi,

i totally agree that we have lots of expectations from Sachin. But its not possible for anyone to come up to ever increasing expectations.

Still i think sachin is doing great with his form. Allways a favourite star for cricket lovers and hell for bowlers.

Hats off to Master Blaster.

Regards.
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: A Cancer Called Cricket – just another point o Reply with quote

Your last argument was quite nice with some 'guest', but his argument was also not bad. Anyway I came back to tell u about some latest news. Last month I heard that BCCI is going to help other sports control boards of india to improve the perormance(monitary help). And they are going to give crores of money for practicing facilities of promising olympic candidates. Are u still thinking cricket is a cancer for our community. If u see the history of the sports how many times one sports authority came up to help other sports. Many be BCCI's this decision will change the entire sports cutlure of India. India is having lots of talented players in different sports, but they are unable to perform well in the international level because of the lack of practicing infrastructues available here. BCCI's this new movement is towards that point. So stop shouting on cricket, just sit back and enjoy the improvement cricket can bring to Indian sports. I recently heard that, as you say 'BCCI's Club' is the most richest team in the world. Here again i have to say something about Sachin too. Inspite of his lack of form and injuries he got again a big sponsorship of 40 million dollors. What a guy he is.......
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi dineeshd,

If I am not mistaken, it is you who started this thread. May be by different user name. Nice to see you back here.

I need sometime to reply to you as I am pretty busy these days..
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After the defeat in world cup 2003 Imlost my interest in cricket
and now I watch cricket only when i've nothing to do

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Tell me which game is played without much sweat (barring the sweat caused by standing under the sun doing nothing) and least amount of physical strain can cause maximum amount of injuries? Yes, you are right. The answer is cricket.


Well I'm not againdt cricket and nor with cricket. but this point is wrong
If u think this is true then its just for batsman. When it comes to
boeling and fielding its different. So when I play cricket I do more of bowling then batting
thats enough for exercise

And I'm very sad that a country like India which is going to b a superpower in years to come is wasting time in such stupid game.
Rather than cricket I love to watch football and hockey
u'll be amazed that I dont know the player names and some rules but even then I enjoy these two games more than cricket


Its the time for Indians to wake up and go for other spoarts to
I dont say put this game in dustbin. But dont give it so much hype as its given now
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's quite true Guttu Bhai..

I never knew that you are a bowler otherwise, I would have edited that part from my friend's article Smile

I enjoy playing games. Since most of them play cricket, I can't say 'No' to them always.. Its their insult.. isn't it dear? So, I was telling that whenever I play, I love to bat. Sometimes, when I am playing with some senior people, they ask me to field. I never get an opportunity to bowl.

That's a small cricket history cum story of mine. I would love to face your bowling.. Lets see if we get sometime Smile

Nice to see you coming and replying to this thread.
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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That's a small cricket history cum story of mine. I would love to face your bowling.. Lets see if we get sometime

No problem. U can easily hit me out of the ground
When I'm fresh I bowl faster and after 6-7 overs
I bowl spin
Its amazin that I give less runs when I bowl spin than faster
I dont know how taht happens


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Nice to see you coming and replying to this thread.

Every debate has 2 sides. So I just wanted to share my experience.
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great idea neeraj, I was thinking the
same line. Why can't we meet, well
at least those of us in India and meet
once in a year, let the cause be
cricket ,football ,anything.

Let this meeting be an annual event.
I would request the admin, mod's and
other friends think over it (we can even
go for a poll) think over an appropriate
time and place convinient to most of us.

Just think over it, with over 100000
members,if even 1%-2% agrees to
meet at a place can you feel the
atmosphere the benifts all will get.

Well my friend Guttu, It's not that after
6-7 overs your spin bowling is at is best,
what I feel is perhaps the batsmen don't
have have the energy to slog the ball.
Hahaha... just joking.

Wish I could face you in our get-together
(offcourse if most of us agrees)

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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well there was a meet about to happen
but due to some reasons its postpones or cancelled
u can fimd the thread regarding this in the New movie clips forum

and plz correct ur signature
It leads to nowhere
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, as Guttu bhai said, there was supposed to be some sort of get together. Somehow, it couldn't materialize.

Let us be the part of the forum and keep coming in touch of most of the interesting guys who enjoy their stay here in this forum, then we can just meet someday at least who are willing and are in the same city.
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