ok iv been so sick of tring to remember bits and peicies of code's so i was looking for a program to edit html and/or php and i found this, php master editor, it works perfect it has a built in browser so you can see what your doing it has built in code buttons. http://www.ankord.com/download/phpxedit_321.zip , there are also other intresting programs on http://www.ankord.com/download/ so yea :) thanks for letting me wast your time.