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  1. #41
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    Corydon, IN

    Default Gay is NOT against nature

    Someone said that being gay was against nature. This is obviously not true as homosexuality runs through the animal kingdom. I will cut and paste information from this site to back it up:

    Re: Could an animal be homosexual?
    Date: Sun May 28 14:47:28 2000
    Posted By: A.E., Undergraduate, Cell biology and genetics, University of British Columbia
    Area of science: Zoology
    ID: 957229910.Zo

    Hi Adam.
    Indeed some animals are, at least according to observations by some
    scientists, in particular, Bruce Bagemihl.

    Here's a complete article from the Time Magazine. I found it at:,23309,00.html

    The Gay Side of Nature

    Even as moralists and activists continue to debate homosexuality, many
    species casually practice it


    Giraffes do it, goats do it, birds and bonobos and dolphins do it. Humans
    beings--a lot of them anyway--like to do it too, but of all the planet's
    species, they're the only ones who are oppressed when they try.

    What humans share with so many other animals, it now appears, is
    freewheeling homosexuality. For centuries opponents of gay rights have
    seen same-gender sex as a uniquely human phenomenon, one of the many ways
    our famously corruptible species flouts the laws of nature. But nature's
    morality, it seems, may be remarkably flexible, at least if the new book
    Biological Exuberance (St. Martin's Press), by linguist and cognitive
    scientist Bruce Bagemihl, is to be believed. According to Bagemihl, the
    animal kingdom is a more sexually complex place than most people know--one
    where couplings routinely take place not just between male-female pairs
    but also between male-male and female-female ones. What's more, same-sex
    partners don't meet merely for brief encounters, but may form long-term
    bonds, sometimes mating for years or even for life.

    Bagemihl's ideas have caused a stir in the higher, human community,
    especially among scientists who find it simplistic to equate any animal
    behavior with human behavior. But Bagemihl stands behind the findings,
    arguing that if homosexuality comes naturally to other creatures, perhaps
    it's time to quit getting into such a lather over the fact that it comes
    naturally to humans too. "Animal sexuality is more complex than we
    imagined," says Bagemihl. "That diversity is part of human heritage."

    For a love that long dared not speak its name, animal homosexuality is
    astonishingly common. Scouring zoological journals and conducting
    extensive interviews with scientists, Bagemihl found same-sex pairings
    documented in more than 450 different species. In a world teeming with
    more than 1 million species, that may not seem like much. Animals,
    however, can be surprisingly prim about when and under whose prying eye
    they engage in sexual activity; as few as 2,000 species have thus been
    observed closely enough to reveal their full range of coupling behavior.
    Within such a small sampling, 450 represents more than 20%.

    That 20% may spend its time lustily or quite tenderly. Among bonobos, a
    chimplike ape, homosexual pairings account for as much as 50% of all
    sexual activity. Females especially engage in repeated acts of same-sex
    sex, spending far more than the 12 or so seconds the whole transaction can
    take when a randy male is involved. Male giraffes practice necking--
    literally--in a very big way, entwining their long bodies until both
    partners become sexually aroused. Heterosexual and homosexual dolphin
    pairs engage in face-to-face sexual encounters that look altogether human.
    Animals as diverse as elephants and rodents practice same-sex mounting,
    and macaques raise that affection ante further, often kissing while
    assuming a coital position. Same-gender sexual activity, says Bagemihl,
    "encompasses a wide range of forms."

    What struck Bagemihl most is those forms that go beyond mere sexual
    gratification. Humboldt penguins may have homosexual unions that last six
    years; male greylag geese may stay paired for 15 years--a lifetime
    commitment when you've got the lifespan of a goose. Bears and some other
    mammals may bring their young into homosexual unions, raising them with
    their same-sex partner just as they would with a member of the opposite

    But witnessing same-sex activity and understanding it are two different
    things, and some experts believe observers like Bagemihl are misreading
    the evidence. In species that lack sophisticated language--which is to say
    all species but ours--sex serves many nonsexual purposes, including
    establishing alliances and appeasing enemies, all things animals must do
    with members of both sexes. "Sexuality helps animals maneuver around each
    other before making real contact," says Martin Daly, an evolutionary
    psychologist at McMaster University in Ontario. "Putting all that into a
    homosexual category seems simplistic."

    Even if some animals do engage in homosexual activity purely for pleasure,
    their behavior still serves as an incomplete model--and an incomplete
    explanation--for human behavior. "In our society homosexuality means a
    principal or exclusive orientation," says psychology professor Frans de
    Waal of the Yerkes Primate Center in Atlanta. "Among animals it's just
    nonreproductive sexual behavior."

    Whether any of this turns out to be good for the gay and lesbian community
    is unclear. While the new findings seem to support the idea that
    homosexuality is merely a natural form of sexual expression, Bagemihl
    believes such political questions may be beside the point. "We shouldn't
    have to look to the animal world to see what's normal or ethical," he
    says. Indeed, when it comes to answering those questions, Mother Nature
    seems to be keeping an open mind. END
    For something more try this website:

    I found the following article funny and amusing so you should try it.
    It's about Dashik and Yahuda, two male vultures, who have raised two baby
    Here's the address:

    And finally here's the address to my own website for further links and

    Arash E.
    Cellular Biology and Genetics
    University of British Columbia

  2. #42
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    Feb 2006


    yes. help. i'm a gay and i want marrieged with my love.

  3. #43
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    very sick.But this will definetly get enough gals for guys like me coz most of the guys will be with their gay mates :D

  4. #44
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    Jun 2006


    Quote Originally Posted by DDLForce
    But please note note that I like to watch lesbians 'playing with each other'.
    who doesn`t ? :P ..

    anywayz .. people should have the right to do almoust everything they want to ( not illegal ! ) ... but some things .. ( like gay things ) should be somehow restricted ...
    Lets think about this .. we make this legal .. and .. you and your son ar walking down the street. In front of you and your son are 2 gays that are kissing ... well .. i don`t think that's something a child should see ..

    right ?

  5. #45
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    Jul 2006


    morally wrong, sick, everyone has a view on it.

    morally wrong? That is for God to say and yes I am well aware of the passages in the Bible, but even if you look at them, there is more to them than just being gay (open mind). I feel if God wants me to say it's wrong then "He" will tell me it's wrong and thus far no such thing.

    As for sick I think that is all in the eyes of the beholder. Obviously their are many who don't think so. I don't know for sure if it is a choice or genetic, but it's none of anyone's business what goes on in anyone's bedroom unless THEY make it your business.

    I don't want anyone looking in on my husband and I so why would I even bother judging what is going on in someone elses bedroom!

    Just a thought...

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